Casper begins this episode with a story about the end of a relationship and how sometimes you need to sit with guilt, instead of trying to rid yourself of it. After the 30 Second Recap, Vanessa and Casper dive into Ron’s guilt about how he has treated Hermione. Casper teases out the difference between guilt and shame.
In looking at Dobby’s behavior, Vanessa and Casper explore how to dig yourself out of a guilt-based narrative. Casper discusses how rituals, like those of the Jewish New Year, allow people to process their guilt, and Vanessa brings up about how verbalizing vulnerabilities often helps people resolve their guilt as well.
Casper talks about how gift giving is often intertwined with guilt. He puts in a plug for giving flowers as a gift. Vanessa and Casper investigate the difference between punishment and guilt as tools for better future behavior.
In Floralegia, Vanessa explores a moment of desperation and Casper talks about how ambition can be dangerous. Casper talks about his love of Percy. Vanessa talks about her love for Stephanie Paulsell.